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I realised I didn't get a good racket drop because my arm was too stiff

Wow instant subscribe, incredible video. I was just analyzing some 4.0 VS 4.5/5.0 usta videos to see what I was missing. The biggest thing I felt was how precise they are with their footwork, so then I got to this video. I cant wait to put this into practice.

This may be the best serve video I've ever seen. So many little details that just aren't talked about, and presented in such a clear manner. Thank you Tom. I will be sharing this. Keep them coming.

I think the right answer is pulling.

Danny bishop special ❤

Maybe due to my bad English I didn’t explain well. Elbow and wrist moove but do not rotate. So you moove your racquet only by dominant shoulder and using yr legs…

Tom u are actualy keep your angled arm still and mooving it only by mooving your shoulder forward and of course using your legs. Elbow and wrist remain still…

Im just a recreational player. My FH grip is Semi western but not to far from Semi eastern. I use full eastern when its a high ball with no momentum and decided to use a FH. Full Eastern to continental is usefull for high balls for me Imo

I am dealing with a shoulder injury and play 1st doubles. I have 3 days to practice this serve before my match. Hopefully, I get as consistent as you, probably not as much spin. Thank you for this alternative to the overhand serve.

Excellent video! Thank you so much for all your great tips

here I am again ... this is your video... and you state "throw it" .. right .. how do you throw the ball ... wrist action included ;).

Love the video. Looks like your toss is relatively low and begins at waist level. The finish looks like a slice rather than a flat serve.

also besides coming up , under and over the ball, you're also relying of a "wrist snap" to generate pace and spin which some call "flexon" of the wrist and not a "snap". It's a wrist snap... at the end and follow through.

That was very helpful .. Thank you

pure balance

Hi Tom. I serve with an Eastern grip and I can get crazy spin. I can't understand why people say you have to use chopper to get spin..? I stand sideways on like Johnny Mac which came about by accident as I struggled with chopper. My grip feels much stronger serving with the Eastern than with chopper - although for volleys chopper feels stronger. I'm a bit confused really :)

Thank you for the video. You are definitely the best serve instructor I have found online.

more of the older players please

I needed this video. Big time.

This is huge A in ABC of serving 🎉

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This is great. I feel like I’m struggling with my entire body rotating around the spine axis

Great video Tom! I discovered the benefits of body rotation on my own and was amazed how much it added to the rhythm of the whole motion

FINALLY ON RUclips a video that doesn't just focus on shoulders, elbow or legs flexion which actually doesn't come first in the kinetic chain. If one focuses first on forward weight shift and hips rotation, the serve becomes much easier and constant.

Good explanation. There's no question that rotation plays a huge role...it acts like a Force Multiplier just like the shoulder over shoulder is an another Force Multiplier that gives your arm additional acceleration. Pete Sampras was a great example of both rotational moves...he had his back to the target and his left cheek was well into the court just prior to contact guaranteeing that rotation from 2 different sources. Rotation is so key on the serve as well as on groundstrokes...it explains why small kids well under 100lbs are able to hit powerful forehands and backhands without really having that much strength.

Good stuff bro. I dig your channel

Great instruction Tom. I've got even more to work on.

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nice shoes :)

Great video! Good advice. Body rotation is crucial for good serve.

I’ve tried the Rybakina take back as well as the ATP style with the elbow raised and head pointed more forward in order to whip the racket head faster and the quality of shot is better with the take back you show. I think it keeps you more focused on the incoming ball forcing you to time the contact.

I have the same problems with my backhand. I feel something is preventing me from rotating my shoulders into the shot. I would be happy to hit my backhand like you.

95% of people I play with use continental grip.

great lesson , when i play i tell myself "CATCH - RELEASE"" .. eg CATCH the ball with my left hand for distance and unit turn and then RELEASE as if the racket was being released from hand and flying away -- that's all good but then there's timing which i'm crap at. WOO!

What?

Your grip is way too small - your pointer finger shouldn't be touching the base of your thumb.

Yes, it is a good idea for beginners, which have problems with modern topspin grips.

brilliant

Nick kyrious was a master forehand pronator.

Eastern all way like fed

Thanks for the video.

I am amazed how my strokes have improved since using the continental grip. Thanks for the reinforcement.

This video is for beginners. That should be stated at the beginning. EVERY advanced player knows when/how/where to use a Continental grip.

Passing into the wind😂

L platform serve pinpoint better

Interesting. I was always taught that the left side drives the power by pulling down/away. But you're saying power comes from the right side.

don't agree.. I like your videos generally but this time I disagree .. Continental FH grip? .. just for beginners or low level players .. Best regards!

i learned in the 80s (from vhs tapes!) and i use an eastern FH grip, but i always developed a slice forehand with a continental grip to "chip and charge" for short shots and for doubles. since i've been playing more, i've moved towards the semi-western FH grip to deal with my son's full western topspin shots (and all his friends hit the same way), but i've started to use the continental grip for returning big first serves since it allows me to chip from either side and it's been very effective. for second serves, i can go back to adjusting my grip to hit with more topspin, but the chip return has really been working for me and it throws the server off a little bit when the ball comes back so low.

(1) I can shadow swing it correctly and achieve a racquet drop. But when I toss the ball, I open up the racquet face and lose the racquet drop. (2) I will try hitting with the edge. If I can hit it with the edge that means I am almost certainly dropping it correctly and swinging up correctly.

I agree.....You need to be able to kinda scoop ball back, or shovel it deep .....not to mention try hitting a drop shot with a western grip....This is tennis 101